NSX axed in Australia.

"pip bip - choose Corrour" (hhgttg69) 10/21/2020 at 06:03 • Filed to: late night oppo, Honda

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HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > pip bip - choose Corrour 10/21/2020 at 06:08

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And so it begins. RIP

pip bip - choose Corrour > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 10/21/2020 at 06:11

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after a whopping 8 sales in 5 years.

yet to see one on the road. 

My bird IS the word > pip bip - choose Corrour 10/21/2020 at 06:27

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Just as the article points out: it never seemed price competitive. Those are some really lousy sales figures though.

Cash Rewards > pip bip - choose Corrour 10/21/2020 at 06:33

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It says honda going fixed pricing? Is that common there?

pip bip - choose Corrour > Cash Rewards 10/21/2020 at 06:34

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not at all

pip bip - choose Corrour > My bird IS the word 10/21/2020 at 06:35

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makes you wonder why they even bothered.

way2blu does a rev update > pip bip - choose Corrour 10/21/2020 at 07:06

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It’s feeling like the real NSX is this one:

https://www.businessinsider.com/chevrolet-corvette-mid-engine-review-c8-horsepower-price-specs-chevy-2020-10?r=US&IR=T

Like, it’s a daily drivable supercar that has less horsepower than, say, a Ferrari F8 Tributo, but still has great performance and is fun to drive. It uses a higher-performing version of a mainstream engine, and has decent cargo space.

Maxima Speed > pip bip - choose Corrour 10/21/2020 at 07:12

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In before NSX name is rebranded as a sport crossover ala eclipse cross. The Acura  NSXtreme. 4 seat sporty crossover with FWD and a CVT.

pip bip - choose Corrour > Maxima Speed 10/21/2020 at 07:14

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they better not do that

:D

My bird IS the word > pip bip - choose Corrour 10/21/2020 at 07:34

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Somebody in corporate’s vanity project. They wanted to show up to the office in a company-built car but a lexus was too poverty spec for them.

But likely it’s just because honda forgot why and how people buy sports cars since they stopped building them. This modern obsession with the super-high end I feel is missing the biggest piece of the pie I.E average joes. I cant even realistically aspire to own a supercar. What happened to the 40-100k segment?

haveacarortwoorthree2 > My bird IS the word 10/21/2020 at 07:48

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Inflation. 

interstate366, now In The Industry > pip bip - choose Corrour 10/21/2020 at 08:54

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Yikes,  I’ve seen more than that in my city alone.

Textured Soy Protein > haveacarortwoorthree2 10/21/2020 at 09:08

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Exactly, plus t he NSX was never $40k. When it debuted in 1991 it stickered at $60k which is $115k in 2020 dollars.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > pip bip - choose Corrour 10/21/2020 at 09:09

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In 2025 no one will sell new cars in Australia after every major company pulls out of the market.

8? That's a really really really bad sales figure. Do you just not have rich idiots over there or do you just have rich idiots with worse taste than we do?

interstate366, now In The Industry > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 10/21/2020 at 09:44

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Yeah, this isn’t solely on the NSX. Some of it is on the Aussie car market, and some of it is Honda not knowing how to sell cars to Europeans and Australians. (Seriously, look at their sales on the continent. The UK will probably not look much better after the Swindon plant closes.)

That said, I wish Honda/Acura would make a Supra competitor. Stretch out the S660 a bit, shove the CTR drivetrain in it, call it the S2000 or Prelude or whatever.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > interstate366, now In The Industry 10/21/2020 at 09:51

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To be honest I’m not sure they know how to build and sell cars to anyone anymore. Like how many of the new Honda Passport have you seen? It should be a runaway hit by all accounts but I’ve seen like, what, three? Honda sells a lot of cars but they haven’t done a good job of marketing their more niche products. Like how they totally forgot to sell any current gen Civic coupes.

But yeah a lot of the Japanese brands have shockingly poor sales in Europe. Toyota has the Yaris and not much else. I hadn’t realized Honda was struggling so much in Australia though.

Speed > pip bip - choose Corrour 10/21/2020 at 10:36

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I wonder how low they could price one of these if they stripped out all the widgets and hybrid technology. I also wonder how it would be received. Once stripped down to the essentials, it would be a solid homage to the original.

feather-throttle-not-hair > pip bip - choose Corrour 10/21/2020 at 11:56

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I was lucky enough to drive one once. I’m not super surprised. I found it both impressive in its capabilities and yet somehow kinda “meh.”

It felt luxurious to me, rather than connected to the driver. A lot of it was the drivetrain, I tried using the paddles to shift, but doing so just felt silly with the weird hybrid powerband.

It honestly wouldn’t be a bad daily, but it just didn’t really provide the thrills its  looks promised imho.

interstate366, now In The Industry > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 10/21/2020 at 11:59

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I’ve seen quite a few Passports, actually, but nowhere near as many as I do CR-V’s. I think it being so close in price to the RDX has hurt it somewhat.

The Civic coupe was a mercy killing, IMO.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > interstate366, now In The Industry 10/21/2020 at 12:15

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I’ve probably seen less than 10 and I’ve been looking for them. They should be a pretty good competitor to the Subaru Forester but one of those is clearly favored by the buying public.

It didn't HAVE to be though. They simply wouldn't acknowledge it in their advertisements. 

duurtlang > interstate366, now In The Industry 10/21/2020 at 12:24

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I don’t think I’ve ever seen one.

interstate366, now In The Industry > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 10/21/2020 at 19:47

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I wonder how many people are put off by the black wheels of the base model. I know I’m not a fan. Also, the RDX is only 6 grand more and has a nicer interior.

interstate366, now In The Industry > duurtlang 10/21/2020 at 19:49

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Yeah, I know Honda sales in general in continental Europe are poor. I think they’ve sold a single digit number of NSXs there this year, and one of those was to  Pierre Gasly, who drives for them.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > interstate366, now In The Industry 10/21/2020 at 20:02

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Valid points but I think the black wheels are actually a selling point for many. Usually that treatment is reserved for higher trim models so putting them on the base is interesting. 

interstate366, now In The Industry > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 10/21/2020 at 20:16

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Can’t be a selling point for that many people if people aren’t buying many of them :P I c an say, for sure, that I see current gen RDXs much more often than Passports. I’ve sat in both at auto shows (haven’t had the pleasure of having either one in at the shop yet) and the interior of the RDX is so much better. When it’s time to get a new daily in a few years I’ll consider the RDX, but not the Passport.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > interstate366, now In The Industry 10/21/2020 at 21:01

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Valid points though I have little to no experience with either. 

interstate366, now In The Industry > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 10/22/2020 at 14:16

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Saw a dealer loaner Passport  just now, an Elite (the top trim IIRC)...still with the black wheels. Although I guess they fit the black paint of the rest of it. But isn’t it a bit odd to give the same wheels to the base model and the top trim?

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > interstate366, now In The Industry 10/22/2020 at 14:20

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Yeah you expect that to be one of the main ways trims are differentiated. That's too much black right there. 

Nauraushaun > pip bip - choose Corrour 10/22/2020 at 16:30

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9 sales. Damn

pip bip - choose Corrour > Nauraushaun 10/22/2020 at 18:05

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have you seen one?

Nauraushaun > pip bip - choose Corrour 10/22/2020 at 19:08

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In Australia, I’m not sure. I guess not. I’d have paid more attention if I’d kn ow n they were so rare.

Here’s a post I made where I saw one in Japan in May last year. And you replied! Then I said I don’t think I’d seen one before, so there’s your answer :)